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I have my moments of inspiration like many others -- most of them bad, with a few diamonds in the rough. Is it possible to monetize those diamonds with stakeholders or entrepreneurs without actually being the person to handle development and technical? Any avenues that you can recommend would be appreciated.

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    Yes, it's called vapor-ware, companies have made millions doing this. I would avoid doing doing because, in my opinion, there is a special place in a very bad place for people who do business like this..
    – Jay
    Jan 11, 2010 at 15:13
  • @Jay - would that be the same level reserved for child molesters and people who talk at the theater? Jan 11, 2010 at 15:23

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Yes it's possible but also you should consider this:

From Getting Real

  • Awful idea = -1
  • Weak idea = 1
  • So-so idea = 5
  • Good idea = 10
  • Great idea = 15
  • Brilliant idea = 20

  • No execution = $1

  • Weak execution = $1000
  • So-so execution = $10,000
  • Good execution = $100,000
  • Great execution = $1,000,000
  • Brilliant execution = $10,000,000

To make a business, you need to multiply the two.

The most brilliant idea, with no execution, is worth $20. The most brilliant idea takes great execution to be worth $20,000,000.

That's why I don't want to hear people's ideas. I'm not interested until I see their execution.

However I think it's possible make a draft and show it off to seal a deal.

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It's possible, but consider this: how much value is there really in an undeveloped idea? You're not the only one out there with great ideas you can't implement.

Having said that, if you really think it's new and original, you might as well use the broken system to your advantage and look into patenting it.

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  • Software patents don't work everywhere, thank $deity. Just patenting something and not planning on using the patent is one of the worst things wrong with patents, don't do it. Jan 1, 2014 at 17:27
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Ideas are a dime a dozen.

Getting them out the door is where the real work is.

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    Hmm. I duped yours, so I can either complain or vote yours up. I voted. :-)
    – T.E.D.
    Mar 20, 2009 at 14:06
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There's a lot more to a new product than just an idea and software development. Frankly, these are two of the easiest parts. Marketing your product and getting people to actually buy it - that's the hard part!

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Depends on the nature of the idea, but if all you have is an idea, but no work, you're unlikely to find a buyer who will pay you a decent amount.

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  • If you don't see the value in developing it, no one else is going to have much faith either. Many investors are not very smart, they just follow other money. If you can't seed your own money, that says you don't even value your own idea.
    – S.Lott
    Mar 20, 2009 at 13:25
  • Precisely... payout is proportionate to risk, so if you've risked nothing (because you haven't done any work), the payout will be nothing.
    – Elie
    Mar 20, 2009 at 13:34
  • I have heard of plenty of instances where no risk is assumed until capital is acquired. Plenty of VCs operate off a simple business pitch and a very basic prototype, which implies the individual took very little risk.
    – user4903
    Mar 20, 2009 at 13:59
  • The prototype is still an investment, even if a small one, by the guy with the idea. Mar 20, 2009 at 14:27
  • Or if the guy with the idea plans to do the work, then VCs may be interested. The OP was referring to selling the idea and washing his hands of it. That's much harder to convince someone else to buy into.
    – Elie
    Mar 20, 2009 at 14:39
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No.

Everyone has ideas. They are a dime a dozen. Less than a dime a dozen.

Ideas without implementation are wothless. You can neither get, nor deserve, any money without anybody doing any work.

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  • What are your business ideas that has not been taken yet? Oct 30, 2009 at 5:36
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Start a business, get a business loan to fund your business early on. Pay people to work for you developing said idea. Once you have early prototypes then you can start looking for outside funding and try to make returns on your initial investments.

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It is possible to sell an undeveloped idea but probably almost impossible to protect it. Consider this, no matter what you do competitors are watching for quick solutions.

The only real means of protecting a niche in a market is to be the best at it, to gaurentee that a replication of your product will be a waste of money, because it will pale in comparison, due to your head start in developing the product.

In short if you can't be the best at your idea, it will be replicated and you'll be outcompeted.

Therefore,

If, and only if, you're convincing (or crazy) enough to find someone who can competitively produce your idea will you be able to monetize the idea.

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In general I would say no. Investors will at least want to see a prototype.

If your idea is amenable and you are willing to do some work, you may be able to take your idea and sell it as a consulting engagement to a company. You can structure the agreement to keep the rights to your software. I've worked on a project like this before.

Of course, you could always build a time machine and travel back to 1995 where you could sell ideas without having anything built.

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  • How "complete" was the prototype?
    – user4903
    Mar 20, 2009 at 14:00
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    I was referring to selling the idea as a consulting engagement. We had no prototype just the idea but it meshed well with a particular company. The company contracted with us to build the software for them but we retained the rights to the software so we could resell it as a product.
    – JMM
    Mar 20, 2009 at 14:21
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You said that you have potentially money-making ideas, in moments of inspiration, and that most of them are bad. I suspect most of us are like that.

How do you tell which ideas are bad and which are good? It's usually impossible to do so without trying them out. If you're willing to go out and work on one, you're at least showing that you have confidence in that one. If you aren't willing to, why am I to have confidence in your idea? Give me some reason to believe somebody (perhaps you) thinks it a good idea. (Alternatively, you could try patenting it, which last I heard cost about ten thousand dollars or more in the US, but that could also turn me against the idea.)

How do you handle a situation where I might have had the same idea, and for whatever reason didn't pursue it? I'm not interested in giving you money if I implement an idea I came up with independently. If you tell me the idea, I can always (honestly or otherwise) claim I had it also. I'm not interested in signing anything that restricts my actions in the future (like the ability to profit off an enterprise without cutting you in) unless I get something for it. I'm also not interested in putting myself in the crosshairs of a lawsuit if I start a business and you think it was from your idea. I have no business reason to listen to your idea unless I already have some confidence it will be profitable to me, and for that see the paragraph above.

Ideas come to everybody. I have ideas. You have ideas. Why should I pick an idea that gives you a cut of the profits, when I can pick an idea I had myself? Sure, I probably overestimate the value of my own ideas, but you probably do also.

You see people making lots of money for no particularly good reason, an author cleaning up on a book that's not all that good, a financial analyst getting millions while bankrupting his company, that sort of thing. What you don't see is that those people put in a lot of time and work to get into that position, where they could profit unfairly. If you're willing to put in that effort, maybe you can get an undeserved profit too.

So, if you have an idea that could be worth millions, get a start on it. Don't try to profit from it without something to show, preferably something that shows off advantages without giving away the whole idea. That shows that one person, at least, has some confidence in the idea. It puts you out in front, if only slightly, and demonstrates that you're probably the logical person to keep going with the idea. It allows you to discuss possible ways to exploit it without giving away the whole thing. It allows me to save face; rather than admit that you have better ideas than mine, it allows me to finance you on the basis of something tangible. (Never expect somebody to pay you just for being smarter than they are. If you are, they won't want to admit it. If not, well, why should they pay you?)

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I run a small software shop and over the last 20 years I've had dozens of people approach me with ideas. Most were users who were thrilled to simply see their ideas brought to fruition. Some were convinced, as you appear to be, that they had the "next big thing" and just needed a programmer to make it work. One guy actually sent me a "non-disclosure" agreement that would have, in essence, given him ownership of everything I developed in our field forever after signing the NDA. His "logic" was that his idea was so wonderful that anything I ever thought of after hearing it would be colored by his brilliance! Obviously, I threw it away and he faded into obscurity.

My take is that ideas are free, period. If you don't have the wherewithal or initiative to turn your idea into a real product, or even just a prototype, then you simply have no claim that anyone else need honor. My apologies if this sounds harsh but I've simply been at this too long to buy into the proposition that the people who do the actual work should owe anything to people who just free-associate.

If you do put in the effort to make the idea real, then you are owed the full protections of the copyright and patent laws to the extent that they apply.

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  • Did you try to discuss the NDA? I would say in this world a good idea is the great advantage and increases possibility of success. Even if you should sacrifice and share some of your IP. Oct 30, 2009 at 5:33
  • Dmitriy - I sent him an alternative NDA and he wouldn't sign it. As far as sharing my IP, I've spent nearly 20 years building a successful business. I've also been in two nasty lawsuits where people essentially tried to take my source code based on the flimsiest of excuses. One was a distributer who asserted that I had to give him all of my source because he'd then be able to sell his own version - with some of his own ideas - without having to bother asking me to make changes. You see, I was an inconvenience once the software was selling well because I was "slowing down his profit stream." Oct 31, 2009 at 3:41
  • So...do you really think it would be a good idea to "share some of my IP" based on some random guy who comes along and says that I really should - just because he has a secret to tell me? Sorry to be harsh but this was simply a legalized theft waiting to happen. Oct 31, 2009 at 3:43
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First : You should discuss your idea with people you know who are good in that technical domain. They will tell you if 1. The product is worthy 2. There is nothing like it in the market already.

You could then try venture capitalists with your market analysis. There you might have to justify as in why you don't want to develop the product but want the money up front.

There are people who would buy the idea but the chances are slim if there is no prototype at least.

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  • But if you plan to patent it at some point, make sure you can still do so if you have discussed it with them first. The rules about how publicly known an idea can be or has to be before it can be patented is different between places. Fx. in Denmark you even have to be careful how much you say to whom inside the company. Jan 1, 2014 at 17:36
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Genius is 99 percent perspiration and 1 percent inspiration. -- Thomas Edison

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If you don't have the time to develop your idea, you might have to be satisfied with giving it to others and watch it flourish. Or else, found a company, hire a CTO and CEO, and offload the implementation work. You might then have to be satisfied with only a small fraction of the company.

Professors give away their ideas to "student entrepreneurs" all the time, trying to get them to actively perform implementation work. The professors would co-found and then provide consultation to the company.

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Yes, it is possible to sell idea/s. But before that just google it if your idea is already implemented or already stolen by someone else. Its a huge world with common thoughts. Every time google disappoints me by showing number of results of my (so called unique) ideas. But keep trying, you may be Genius.

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Get yourself a sales guy that has no problem selling "vapourware".

Then when he's sold a version of it, code like mad to get it done.

Unethical, maybe, but if you can pull it off, it'll get a startup up and running nice and quickly.

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How do you know it's a good idea? Evaluate your idea, assess the market it will play in, identify experts or talent that could implement the idea, create a rough marketing plan or launch plan, make some blue sky revenue guesses, and figure out the next smallest possible step towards realizing the idea (that is, plant your first milestone).

Now bounce all this around friends, and business people asking for evaluation. Take it to your local Small Business Developer Center and see if they have advisors that you can meet (most have some type of network of retired executives).

If (and it's a big if) you have the capability to implement the idea than yes, you might get angel round funding, a business loan or a team of excited volunteers willing to sweat for equity. That first milestone is key for some investors - "Fund me to this point and then we'll sit down and look at what we've got and re-evaluate and hopefully decide to continue funding."

Ideas are cheap. Implementation takes money, time and especially effort. And it's effort that is valuable.

If you just want to jot down your ideas and sell them, just write a book of ideas.

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I would probably buy your idea if it would be so great.
For me ***the lack of idea is the issu***e, I would stand up for its execution (after its evaluation of course).

Not sealing a deal here, but startups would not be able to pay for the idea, instead they would be able to make you co-founder, stakeholder or similar when they will start implementing your idea.