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I copied and pasted a new version of the data into my MS Access table and now I'm getting weird characters in my queries. Essentially if I say:

SELECT a, b from table1

everything is fine. If I instead do

SELECT a, b from table1 group by a, b

I get really weird characters as a result. At first I got upside down L's, but now I'm getting Chinese characters. It's weird because other queries in my database use the table and get the desired output. It seems like it's only when I do a group by that I have the problems. Any suggestions? I was ready to roll it out, but now I'm getting these errors!

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    How are you connecting to and reading from your Access database? (What program are you running the queries in?). What collation are you using?
    – Dai
    Feb 28, 2015 at 0:25
  • I'm constructing the queries in a subroutine in VBA. I then set a listbox rowsource equal to the query. Even if I just write a query in the query builder in Access, though, I see the same thing. I wasn't getting this before I made the update to the data. Feb 28, 2015 at 0:28
  • Please post a screenshot which includes the results you're seeing as well as your data in Table view.
    – Dai
    Feb 28, 2015 at 0:53

4 Answers 4

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This is a bug typically met if grouping on a memo field.

There may be several workarounds depending on your needs:

Select 
    a, Left(b, 255) As b
From 
    table1 
Group By 
    a, Left(b, 255)

Select 
    a, Mid(b, 1) As b
From 
    table1 
Group By 
    a, Mid(b, 1)

Select 
    a, First(b) As firstb
From 
    table1 
Group By 
    a

Select 
    a, DLookUp("b","table1","Id = " & [table1]![Id] & "") AS b
From 
    table1 
Group By 
    a, DLookUp("b","table1","Id = " & [table1]![Id] & "")
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    This is ridiculous, but good to know! Thank you so much. This fixes the issue. Mar 2, 2015 at 14:47
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    I used the first example that used the Left function. Apr 7, 2015 at 19:01
  • Select a, Left(b, 255) As b From table1 Group By a, Left(b, 255) Jul 13, 2016 at 15:34
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    Plus one for putting me on the right track with the "Memo Field" reference.
    – rohrl77
    Aug 23, 2018 at 11:06
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I have just had the same issue in various reports. The problem is indeed the Memo Field.

The solution that worked for me was more straight forward... I had to remove the "Group by" for the Memo field and the problem disapeared.

I realize this might not be an option in every situation, but if it is, this is the easiest solution as it requires no rewrite of the SQL or even any other change in the DB.

I found this solution here: Allen Brown - Grouping by Memo field yields garbage

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Here is yet another option, which I just tried successfully. I was updating a query that someone else had created, and the author had included every field in the Group By clause, to return distinct records. I removed the entire Group By clause and inserted DISTINCT right after SELECT. No more Chinese. This may not be possible in some situations, but in this case it was a simple fix.

Also, I would not have thought of this if not for the insights offered above. Thanks everyone!

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After five months of no problems, I had this issue today on a group query which included a "Count" field, so the "DISTINCT" technique wouldn't work. What I did was wrap my LongText field around the offending field. In this table, all of the fields are ShortText except for "Description". So the field groups by CSTR([Description]) - and now it works fine! By the way - this came shortly after a MS Office 365 update!

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