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While looking for a way to test when a user cancels an InputBox, I stumbled across the StrPtr function. I believe it checks if a variable was ever assigned a value and returns zero if it was never assigned and some cryptic number if it was.

It seems like a useful function! I started with this code:

Dim myVar as string
myVar = InputBox("Enter something.")
MsgBox StrPtr(myVar)

The message box shows a zero if the user cancelled.

Fantastic! But then why do some insist that StrPtr never be used? I read it's unsupported. Why does that matter?

A good answer will explain benefits (beyond my example above) and risks of using the StrPtr function, possibly how you use (or don't use) it without giving an opinion as to whether everyone or no one should use it.

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tldr; There's no real risk to using StrPtr like that, but there's not really a benefit either.

While it might look like you get a null pointer back from the InputBox call, you actually don't. Compare the result of StrPtr to VarPtr:

Sub Test()
    Dim result As String
    result = InputBox("Enter something.")        'Hit cancel
    Debug.Print StrPtr(result)                   '0
    Debug.Print VarPtr(result)                   'Not 0.
End Sub

That's because InputBox is returning a Variant with a sub-type of VT_BSTR. This code demonstrates (note that I've declared result as a Variant so it doesn't get implicitly cast - more on this below):

Sub OtherTest()
    Dim result As Variant
    result = InputBox("Enter something.")   'Hit cancel
    Debug.Print StrPtr(result)              '0
    Debug.Print VarPtr(result)              'Not 0.
    Debug.Print VarType(result)             '8 (VT_BSTR)
    Debug.Print TypeName(result)            'String
End Sub

The reason why StrPtr returns 0 is because the return value of InputBox is actually malformed (I consider this a bug in the implementation). A BSTR is an automation type that prefixes the actual character array with the length of the string. This avoids one problem that a C-style null terminated string presents automation - you either have to pass the length of the string as a separate parameter or the caller won't know how large to size a buffer to receive it. The problem with the return value of InputBox is that the Variant that it's wrapped in contains a null pointer in the data area. Normally, this would contain the string pointer - the caller would dereference the pointer in the data area, get the size, create a buffer for it, and then read the N bytes following the length header. By passing a null pointer in the data area, InputBox relies on the calling code to check that the data type (VT_BSTR) actually matches what is in the data area (VT_EMPTY or VT_NULL).

Checking the result as a StrPtr is actually relying on that quirk of the function. When it's called on a Variant, it returns the pointer to the underlying string stored in the data area, and it offsets itself by the length prefix to make it compatible with library functions that require a C-string. That means the StrPtr has to perform a null pointer check on the data area, because it's not returning a pointer to the start of the actual data. Also, like any other VARTYPE that stores a pointer in the data area, it has to dereference twice. The reason VarPtr actually gives you a memory address is that it gives you the raw pointer to whatever variable you pass it (with the exception of arrays, but that's not really in scope here).

So... it's really no different than using Len. Len just returns the value in the header of the BSTR (no, it doesn't count characters at all), and it also needs a null test for the similar reason that StrPtr does. It makes the logical conclusion that a null pointer has zero length - this is because vbNullstring is a null pointer:

Debug.Print StrPtr(vbNullString) '<-- 0

That said, you're relying on buggy behavior in InputBox. If Microsoft were to fix the implementation (they won't), it would break your code (which is why they won't). But in general, it's a better idea to not rely on dodgy behavior like that. Unless you're looking to treat the user hitting "Cancel" differently than the user not typing anything and hitting "Enter", there really isn't much point in using StrPtr(result) = 0 in favor of the much clearer Len(result) = 0 or result = vbNullString. I'd assert that if you need to make that distinction, you should throw together your own UserForm and explicitly handle cancellation and data validation in your own dialog.

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    All the more reason to use Application.InputBox and get a genuine Variant that always has a StrPtr Feb 3, 2017 at 6:23
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    I had to read that twice. While I don't have a formal programming background most of your answer makes sense. I'm relying on the upvotes and lack of any counterpoints and accepting your answer.
    – ChrisB
    Feb 3, 2017 at 17:05
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    I don't understand why you would say there is not a benefit to using it this way, when the alternative method can't differentiate between the user submitting a blank value and the user actually clicking cancel. This seems like a clear benefit to me, but am I missing something?
    – nateAtwork
    Jan 23, 2018 at 19:04
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    I am very confused by this answer to the point of wanting to downvote it. Unauqlified InputBox is VBA.InputBox, which returns a String, not Variant/String. It incorrectly misses the As String in the online documentation, but it correctly has As String when you view it in the object browser. Checking StrPtr on its return value is the only way to detect Cancel. On contrary, Application.InputBox returns a Variant, and with that you should check for = False instead.
    – GSerg
    May 20, 2019 at 9:07
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    Involvement of VarPtr is another confusing/irrelevant point because of course a variable you have declared is located somewhere in memory, so its VarPtr always equals to something, regardless of whether or not you stored the result of InputBox in it. And that VarPtr won't change when and if you do.
    – GSerg
    May 20, 2019 at 9:09
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I find the accepted answer to be rather misleading, so I was compelled to post another one.

A good answer will explain benefits (beyond my example above) and risks of using the StrPtr function, possibly how you use (or don't use) it without giving an opinion as to whether everyone or no one should use it.

There are three "hidden" functions: VarPtr, StrPtr and ObjPtr.

  • VarPtr is used when you need to get the address of a variable (that is, the pointer to the variable).
  • StrPtr is used when you need to get the address of the text data of a string (that is, the BSTR, a pointer to the first Unicode character of the string).
  • ObjPtr is used when you need to get the address of an object (that is, the pointer to the object).

They are hidden because it may be unsafe to mess around with pointers.
But you cannot go completely without them.

So, when do you use them?
You use them when you need to do what they do.

You use VarPtr when your problem in hand is "I need to know the address of that variable" (e.g. because you want to pass that address to CopyMemory).
You use StrPtr when your problem in hand is "I need to know the address of the first character of my BSTR string" (e.g. because you want to pass it to an API function that accepts wide strings only, but if you simply declare the parameter As String, VB will convert the string into ANSI for you, so you have to pass StrPtr).
You use ObjPtrwhen your problem in hand is "I need to know the address of that object" (e.g. because you want to examine its vtable or manually check if the object address does or does not equal some value you knew previously).

These functions correctly do what they are supposed to do, and you should not be afraid to use them for their intended purpose.

If your task in hand is different, you probably should not be using them, but not out of fear that they will return a wrong value - they will not.


In a perfect world, you would stop at that conclusion. That is not always possible, unfortunately, and the InputBox situation you mention is one of the examples.

From what is outlined above, it would appear that you should not be using StrPtr to determine if Cancel was pressed in an InputBox. Realistically though, you don't have a choice.

VBA.InputBox returns a String. (This fact is incorrectly omitted from the current documentation making it look like it returns a Variant.) It is perfectly okay to pass a string to StrPtr.

However, it is not documented that InputBox returns a null pointer on a cancel. It is merely an observation. Even though realistically that behaviour will never change, theoretically it may in a future version of Office. But that observation is all you have; there is no documented return value for a cancel.

With this in mind, you make a decision on whether or not you are comfortable with using StrPtr on the InputBox result. If you are happy to take the very small risk of this behaviour changing in future and your app therefore breaking, you do use StrPtr, otherwise you switch to Application.InputBox that returns a Variant and is documented to return a False on a cancel.

But that decision will not be based on whether StrPtr is correct in what it tells you. It is. It is always safe to pass the String result of VBA.InputBox to it.


Fantastic! But then why do some insist that StrPtr never be used? I read it's unsupported. Why does that matter?

When someone insists that something should never be used, it's almost always wrong. Even GoTo has its correct uses.

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I tired both using StrPtr and without using StrPtr. I tested my Sub with several examples. I got same results except in one occasion - When User inputs null value (nothing) and presses OK. Precisely I tried these two:

Using StrPtr. "Invalid Number" was the result here

    ElseIf StrPtr(Max_hours_string) = 0 
            MsgBox "Cancelled"
    Else
            MsgBox "Invalid Number"

Without Using StrPtr. "Cancelled" was the result here

 ElseIf Max_hours_string = "" Then
        MsgBox "Cancelled"
 Else
        MsgBox "Invalid Number"

This is my code.

Sub Input_Max_Hours_From_The_User()
        'Two Common Error Cases are Covered:
        '1. When using InputBox, you of course have no control over whether the user enters valid input.
        '        You should store user input into a string, and then make sure you have the right value.
        '2. If the user clicks Cancel in the inputbox, the empty string is returned.
                 'Since the empty string can't be implicitly coerced to a double, an error is generated.
                 'It is the same thing that would happen if the user entered "Haughey" in the InputBox.

     Dim Max_hours_string As String, Max_hours_double As Double
        Max_hours_string = InputBox("Enter Maximum hours of any Shift")
        If IsNumeric(Max_hours_string) Then
            Max_hours_double = CDbl(Max_hours_string) 'CDbl converts an expression to double
            Range("L6").Value = Max_hours_double
            Range("L6").Interior.ColorIndex = 37
        ElseIf StrPtr(Max_hours_string) = 0 Then 'ElseIf Max_hours_string = "" Then MsgBox "Cancelled"  also works !
            MsgBox "Cancelled"
        Else
            MsgBox "Invalid Number"
        End If

    End Sub

So I think it depends how important it is to handle the null value for you. All other test cases, including pressing Cancel, non-numerical inputs etc. give the same results. Hope this helps.

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Read through this thread and ultimately ended up doing the following... which does exactly what I want.... If the user deletes the previous entry which is the default... and clicks ok.. it moves forward and deletes the back end data ( not shown ). If the user click's cancel, it exists the sub without doing anything. This is the ultimate objective and... this allows it to work as intended... Move forward unless cancel is clicked.

hth, ..bob

Dim str As String

If IsNull(Me.Note) = False Then
   str = Me.Note
Else
    str = "Enter Note Here"
End If

Dim cd As Integer
cd = Me.ContractDetailsID

str = InputBox("Please Enter Note", "NOTE", str)


If StrPtr(str) = 0 Then
    Exit Sub    'user hit cancel
End If
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In my opinion: Using StrPtr in order to identify if a value converts to 0 is extra code to write. if you use the following function like your example above

Sub woohoo()
    Dim myVar As String
    myVar = "hello"
    myVar = InputBox("Enter something.")
   'if Cancel is hit myVar will = "" instead of hello.
    'MsgBox StrPtr(myVar) not needed
    MsgBox myVar 'will show ""
End Sub

Now is this the only reason to not use StrPtr no not at all. The other issue you run into with using unsupported functions is that eventually they can break the application. Whether its a library issue or another programmer looking through your code and trying to find that function it just is not a good idea. This may not seem like a big deal if your script is only 100 lines long. But what about when it is thousands of lines long. If you have to look at this code 2 years down the road because something broke it would not be very fun to have to find this magical function that just does not work anymore and try to figure out what it did. Lastly especially in VBA you can get overflow errors. If StrPtr is used and it goes past the allocated space of your data type that you declared it's another unnecessary error.

Just my 2 cents but due to being able to use less code and the function being more stable without it I would not use it.

10+ years Excel Programmer.

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    The point of using StrPtr is that it only returns 0 when the user cancels the dialog. It returns a non-zero result if the user doesn't enter anything and hits enter. The OP's code is testing for cancellation - not whether the return value is vbNullString.
    – Comintern
    Feb 3, 2017 at 3:45
  • This must be why most people answer a question with a comment so they don't get down voted. My answer explained the actual issue that could come up. The OP asked why it matters if you use an unsupported function. I answered that. To encourage people to use unsupported functions (if they are, I guess I should have researched that and not just took the OP's word for it) creates issues to fix down the line. Feb 11, 2017 at 19:07
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    Undocumented does not mean unsupported. These functions aren't even undocumented any more - they received first class support (and documentation) in VBA beginning with Office 2010 because they are required for use with native libraries.
    – Comintern
    Feb 11, 2017 at 19:18

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