Better late than never!!!
Java is 10+ years late in trying to come up with lighter weight units of execution which can be executed in parallel. As a side note, Project loom also aims to expose in Java 'delimited continuation' which, I believe is nothing more than good old 'yield' keyword of C# (again almost 20 years late!!)
Java does recognize the need for solving the bigger problem solved by asyn await (or actually Tasks in C# which is the big idea. Async Await is more of a syntactical sugar. Highly significant improvement, but still not a necessity to solve the actual problem of OS mapped Threads being heavier than desired).
Look at the proposal for project loom here: https://cr.openjdk.java.net/~rpressler/loom/Loom-Proposal.html
and navigate to last section 'Other Approaches'. You will see why Java does not want to introduce async/await.
Having said this, I don't really agree with the reasoning being provided. Neither in this proposal nor in Stephan's answer.
First let us diagnose Stephan's answer
- async await solves point 1 mentioned there. (Stephan also acknowledges it further down the answer)
- It is extra work for sure on the part of the framework and tools but not at all on the part of the programmers. Even with async await, .Net debuggers are pretty good in this aspect.
- This I only partially agree with. Whole purpose of async await is to elegantly mix asynchronous world with synchronous constructs. But yes, you either need to declare the caller also as async or deal directly with Task in the caller routine. However, project loom will not solve it either in a meaningful way. To fully benefit from the light weight virtual threads, even the caller routine must be getting executed on a virtual thread. Otherwise what's the benefit? You will end up blocking an OS backed thread!!! Hence even virtual threads need to be 'viral' in the code. On the contrary, it will be easier in Java to not notice that the routine you are calling is async and will block the calling thread (which will be concerning if the calling routine is itself not executing on a virtual thread). Async keyword in C# makes the intent very clear and forces you to decide (it is possible in C# to block as well if you want by asking for Task.Result. Most of the time the calling routine can just as easily be async itself).
Stephan is right when he says async programming is needed to prevent blocking of (OS) threads as (OS) threads are expensive. And that's precisely the whole reason why virtual threads (or C# tasks) are needed. You should be able to 'block' on these tasks without losing your sleep. Offcourse to not lose the sleep, either the calling routine itself should be a task or blocking should be on non-blocking IO, with framework being smart enough to not block the calling thread in that case (power of continuation).
C# supports this and proposed Java feature aims to support this.
According to the proposed Java api, blocking on virtual thread will require calling vThread.join() method in Java.
How is it really more beneficial than calling await workDoneByVThread()?
Now let us look at project loom proposal reasoning
Continuations and fibers dominate async/await in the sense that async/await is easily implemented with continuations (in fact, it can be implemented with a weak form of delimited continuations known as stackless continuations, that don't capture an entire call-stack but only the local context of a single subroutine), but not vice-versa
I don't simply understand this statement. If someone does, please let me know in the comments.
For me, async/await are implemented using continuations and as far as stack trace is concerned, since the fibres/virtual threads/tasks are within the virtual machine, it must be possible to manage that aspect. In-fact .net tools do manage that.
While async/await makes code simpler and gives it the appearance of normal, sequential code, like asynchronous code it still requires significant changes to existing code, explicit support in libraries, and does not interoperate well with synchronous code
I have already covered this. Not making significant changes to existing code and no explicit support in libraries will actually mean not using this feature effectively. Until and unless Java is aiming to transparently transform all the threads to virtual threads, which it can't and isn't, this statement does not make sense to me.
As a core idea, I find no real difference between Java virtual threads and C# tasks. To the point that project loom is also aiming for work-stealing scheduler as default, same as the scheduler used by .Net by default (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.threading.tasks.taskscheduler?view=net-5.0, scroll to last remarks section ).
Only debate it seems is on what syntax should be adopted to consume these.
C# adopted
- A distinct class and interface as compared to existing threads
- Very helpful syntactical sugar for marrying async with sync
Java is aiming for:
- Same familiar interface of Java Thread
- No special constructs apart from try-with-resources support for ExecutorService so that the result for submitted tasks/virtual threads can be automatically waited for (thus blocking the calling thread, virtual/non-virtual).
IMHO, Java's choices are worse than those of C#. Having a separate interface and class actually makes it very clear that the behavior is a lot different. Retaining same old interface can lead to subtle bugs when a programmer does not realize that she is now dealing with something different or when a library implementation changes to take advantage of the new constructs but ends up blocking the calling (non-virtual) thread.
Also no special language syntax means that reading async code will remain difficult to understand and reason about (I don't know why Java thinks programmers are in love with Java's Thread syntax and they will be thrilled to know that instead of writing sync looking code they will be using the lovely Thread class)
Heck, even Javascript now has async await (with all its 'single-threadedness').